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    arp percentages arent additive like that. i dont know how to calculate it though, and blizzard has only released their way of calculating it for players lvl 60+. someone would have to get the gear and run #s against players of different armor lvls to figure it out

    iirc though, mace spec/grim toll/etc are most effective when they will bring you exactly to the armor pen cap (100%). armor pen usually isnt good for 80 classes until you can get 35-40%

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    Sorry for necro-ing, but these word I just have to add. And sorry for harsh words.

    But it really makes my mind BLEED, if you think that BAR is superior to PoD.

    Lets do some quick math:
    BAR (39 version): 3,8 Speed, 38 DPS, 115-173 Damage range, 13 Str, 19 Stam, 13 Critrating
    PoD: 4,0 Speed, 38,9 DPS, 124-187 Damage range, no Stats, proccs for 250-350 phys Dam, capable to hit critically (At least on my private server, lol.)

    Firstly, PoD will do more damage per swing, even including the 13 Str (=26 AP = 1,85 DPS increase) bonus provided by BAR. Also note that PoD has 0,9 DPS more than BAR, thus making it worth 6,5 Str compared to BAR. So 1,85*3,8=7,05, thus BAR would be 122-180 (inferior to PoDs 124-187).
    Secondly, the 13 Critrating are 0,12*13 = 1,56% (fixd, I did 13^2, lol, fail.) extra chance to hit critically. Assuming that PoD would have an equal chance to procc, it would make PoD superior to BAR, because with PoD you would be able to crit with both your Autohit/Overpower/Whirlwind/, AND your PoD proc, leading to an insane amount of burstdamage. Also, as far as I have observed (from my private server, once again, feel free to correct me if you have some retail data), the chance that your PoD procs is far beyond 1,56%, thus making PoD even more superior to BAR.
    The only reason to take BAR above PoD would be:
    a) you dont have a PoD, which is pretty probable
    b) you try to stack as much Stamina as possible
    But imO the 19 Stamina arent worth, by any means, the loss of the possibility of landing a OLOLOL Hit+PoD-procc crit, for you should be somewhere about 2,7k HP, and these 190 additional HP should not be such a great deal.

    Thanks for your attention,
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    Last edited by ForTheLichKing!; 07-27-2010 at 04:33 PM. Reason: fixed math error.
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    The positioning of the 2 items on the list is actually a mistake. Pod is superior, esp for bleed specs.

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    Ah okay. (Did already see that for bleed spec.)
    But I would also say that PoD is _vastly_ superior to BAR in all specs, you should never want to take a BAR over a PoD (unless you dont have a PoD, which is most likely), the 19 Stam are nothing in comparison to burstpotential + dam lost by taking BAR over PoD. Just wanted to point that out.
    (And got like insta trolled for that. lol.)

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